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Charlie Hatchett · Joined: 06 Apr 2006 Posts: 898 Location: Austin, Texas

Pat's finds (consolidated):

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DavidCampbell · Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:02 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the consolidation, Charlie. Did you upload my latest "extreme paleo" to your site? I'll upload it at the "New artifacts" thread as soon as you do. I'm not going to make any extravagant claims for its age but it did show up in an arenaceous blue clay layer that characteristically produces Clovis artifacts. Underlying that are even older iron ore gravels which occur closer to the surface as I move downslope. I've been testing these lately but haven't turned up anything yet. Anything in those gravels will be signifcant.
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Charlie Hatchett · Joined: 06 Apr 2006 Posts: 898 Location: Austin, Texas

Hi David.

I did upload two photos under the "More Artifacts" thread.

Are those the artifacts to which your referring?
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DavidCampbell · Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:25 am Post subject:

No, Charlie, I was referring to the last two I sent you, which is the dorsal and ventral view of a roughly triangular artifact with a notched base. It is similar to the really old stuff I was digging up at my first site. This one came from my new site just behind the house. Also, I found some red jasper debitage which matched some others I found at the Lucky site but I did not photograph those; I think they are much later artifacts from the Archaic or Early Woodland. Most likely the red jasper is Caddo or Fourche Maline as I have seen complete pieces made of it in other collections here in North Texas. I'll resend the latest ones if you can't find them. Additionally, I found a long gray quartzite piece resembling some of Chris Hardaker's bipolar flaking over at the Lucky site but I have not photographed it yet. The problem is that some of the Fourche Maline stuff looks very much like the PreClovis suspects. I really don't know how to accurately date this stuff; generally I go by the depth at which I find them as well as the level workmanship. The cruder, the older used to be my rule of thumb but that's really not the best indicator based upon what I have since learned about Clear Fork and Guadalupe tools.
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Cognito · Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:10 am Post subject: Dating

Cognito · Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:13 am Post subject: Access

Charlie Hatchett · Joined: 06 Apr 2006 Posts: 898 Location: Austin, Texas

Cognito · Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:06 am Post subject: Strata

Charlie Hatchett · Joined: 06 Apr 2006 Posts: 898 Location: Austin, Texas

Cognito · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:50 pm Post subject: Calico

Charlie, I am sending you some pre-cataloged items from Calico. Since my fuzzy picture problem appears to be a problem with the Kodak camera I am using, could you please post pictures on this site after you receive them? Shocked

You are receiving two bifacial handaxes and a three inch, well-formed teardrop blade. Please don't salivate on the samples! Very Happy

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Cognito · Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:17 pm Post subject: Calico

Charlie was nice enough to take pictures of the following items from Calico, California dated 12/2/2006. I recently purchased the same camera as he is using and I should be just as fanatic about this stuff as he is with a little practice. Yes, you'll all be suffering in due time! Very Happy

1a. Teardrop 3" blade - material jasper (obverse) This is well-formed and relatively thin. Used primarily as a knife:

1b. Teardrop 3" blade - material jasper (reverse):

2a. Hand-axe 4-1/2" - material chert (obverse). Upon close examination, about 18 or more flint strikes per side and some nice percussion rippling. Shows impact strees on the point:

2b. Hand-axe 4-1/2" - material chert (reverse):

3a. Hand-axe 4" - material chalcedony (obverse). Crudely formed, but retouched on the point:

3b. Hand-axe 4" - material chalcedony (reverse):

The above samples are from the "Lake Manix Lithic Industry" surface area which is dated to before 16,000bce based on the catastrophic draining of Lake Manix at that time. However, another USGS survey may place that date further back, between 18,000bce and 24,000bce due to new data recovered from the area over the last year. The hillside where these items were recovered has undergone two meters of erosion since the late Pleistocene/early Holocene. After drainage of the Manix basin the site became completely inhospitable to human occupation due to severe climactic changes post-Younger Dryas and the near complete loss of wetlands nearby.
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DavidCampbell · Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:50 pm Post subject:

Thanks for putting those up Pat; get as fanatical as you want since this is your thread. We're all fanatical extremists here (well, most of us; Frank's ouir resident anchor to what passes for reality Wink

). Charlie might want to place a piece of plastic over his keyboard to keep the drool from shorting it out. Smile

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Charlie Hatchett · Joined: 06 Apr 2006 Posts: 898 Location: Austin, Texas

Cognito · Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:54 pm Post subject: Gold